Having been in Interagro for almost 2 decades, he used to work with the dairy cattle and, as this activity came to an end, he was transferred to the Stud Farm. Head of the Picadeiro for more than 10 years, he took a period of training in Portugal with Jorge Souza in 1994 and a Driving Course at the Coudelaria de Alter in 1998. He dedicates himself to the whole range of Driving activities, from breaking foals to the most advanced training. His first test in Brazil was a four-in-hand, but these days, in the farm, he harnesses 6, 8 and 10 animals together. Also, he now gives tutoring courses to coachmen and horses.